El orden es RGB, correcto.<div><br></div><div>Ya me cuentas como lo apañas.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/6 Roberto Calvo <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@libresoft.es">rocapal@libresoft.es</a>&gt;</span><br>
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En principio, para simplificar, voy a utilizar el servidor que daba los<br>
frames en RGB, que parece más factible hacerlo.<br>
<br>
Puedes comentarme el formato en el que va?? el orden es RGB?<br>
<br>
El vie, 06-11-2009 a las 08:48 -0500, David Lobato escribió:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; Los asuntos de java y eclipse me suenan a chino...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Bien por la ejecución, a ver si damos el paso y podemos pintar el<br>
&gt; frame.<br>
&gt; Concretamente los datos que se envían con el ejemplo van en YUV2 que<br>
&gt; va ordenado como se indica en [1]. El tamaño es el que indicas, 2bytes<br>
&gt; por pixel<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; La Y es la información de luminancia, que podemos utilizar como valor<br>
&gt; de gris. De modo, que para pintar un frame YUV2 en escala de grises,<br>
&gt; basta que cojamos los bytes 0,2,4,6,....<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Aunque lo suyo sería encontrar la manera de pintar YUV con android...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ¿Cómo puedo probar las cosas que vayas haciendo en android? ¿Hay algún<br>
&gt; emulador o similar?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Saludetes.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; [1] YUY2<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2009/11/5 Roberto Calvo &lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@libresoft.es">rocapal@libresoft.es</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Solucionado!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Entre Eclipse y Java me estaban volviendo loco, y no<br>
&gt;         incorporaba el .jar<br>
&gt;         de IceAndroid, en la compilación final. Vamos si compilaba,<br>
&gt;         pero no<br>
&gt;         enlazaba correctamente y al ejecutar en el movil ... crash!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Ya consigo ejecutar sin heredar de App, y lo mejor de todo es<br>
&gt;         que<br>
&gt;         consigo establecer comunicación con tu servidor David, además<br>
&gt;         he añadido<br>
&gt;         un print para cuando hacen un getData() y todo OK!  Aunque aún<br>
&gt;         no he<br>
&gt;         mostrado la imagen, recibo en pixelData un tamaño de 153600<br>
&gt;         (320*240*2)<br>
&gt;         ¿correcto?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Lo mejor de todo, es que todas estas pruebas de Ice y Android,<br>
&gt;         están<br>
&gt;         hechas con la última versión de Android, la 1.6 :-))<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         A dormir!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         El vie, 06-11-2009 a las 00:06 +0100, Roberto Calvo escribió:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Me esta dando un error muy feo justo al hacer lo siguiente:<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; [Código en JAVA, que estamos mirando la integración en<br>
&gt;         Android]<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Ice.Communicator communicator = Ice.Util.initialize();<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; y el error:<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.351: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848): Uncaught<br>
&gt;         handler: thread main exiting due to uncaught exception<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):<br>
&gt;         java.lang.VerifyError: com.pentalo.apps.security.Main<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         java.lang.Class.newInstanceImpl(Native Method)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         java.lang.Class.newInstance(Class.java:1472)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.Instrumentation.newActivity(Instrumentation.java:1097)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.ActivityThread.performLaunchActivity(ActivityThread.java:2186)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.ActivityThread.handleLaunchActivity(ActivityThread.java:2284)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.ActivityThread.access<br>
&gt;         $1800(ActivityThread.java:112)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.ActivityThread<br>
&gt;         $H.handleMessage(ActivityThread.java:1692)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:99)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:3948)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:521)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit<br>
&gt;         $MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:782)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:540)<br>
&gt;         &gt; 11-05 23:43:36.371: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(848):     at<br>
&gt;         dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method)<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Muy raro ... voy a intentar basarme en el esqueleto que<br>
&gt;         funciona del<br>
&gt;         &gt; HelloWorld ... pero me suena raro<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 17:10 -0500, David Lobato escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt; SIp, perdona, se me olvido decirte que era el ejemplo 5.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt; 2009/11/5 Roberto Calvo &lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@libresoft.es">rocapal@libresoft.es</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         David,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         entiendo que es esta ¿verdad?<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://svn.jde.gsyc.es/jde/jdec/branches/5.0/examples/ice/example5/varcolorviewgtkmm.cpp" target="_blank">http://svn.jde.gsyc.es/jde/jdec/branches/5.0/examples/ice/example5/varcolorviewgtkmm.cpp</a><br>

&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         El jue, 05-11-2009 a las 13:53 -0500, David Lobato<br>
&gt;         escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; He subido al branch 5.0 el ejemplo modificado<br>
&gt;         sin la clase<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         application<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; en el cliente. Mira a ver si te haces con ello.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; Probaste a modificar los parámetros de la<br>
&gt;         cámara?<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; Un saludete.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; David.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt; 2009/10/23 David Lobato &lt;<a href="mailto:dav.lobato@gmail.com">dav.lobato@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         2009/10/23 Roberto Calvo<br>
&gt;         &lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 El mar, 20-10-2009 a las 00:42<br>
&gt;         +0200, David<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Lobato<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Genial, también esta<br>
&gt;         compilada una<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         nueva<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 versión de ffmpeg.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Comprueba si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         funciona correctamente<br>
&gt;         el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         gst-launch con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 gstreamer-ffmpeg que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         es el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         pluginque más dudas<br>
&gt;         tengo que rule<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         bien.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; He probado un pipe con<br>
&gt;         ffmpegcolorspace, y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 funcionaba bien. Veremos si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; funciona correctamente si<br>
&gt;         hacemos alguna<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 codificación, aunque de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; momento no creo que lo usemos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Ayer envié el correo y<br>
&gt;         se lo quedó<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         la lista,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 y en ese momento<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         no estaba<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg,<br>
&gt;         pero ahora<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         mismo si lo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 has instalado si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         está. El<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         único que me queda es<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         gstreamer0.10-nice que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 justo tiene que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         ver con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         ICE.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; No tengo ni idea de que hay<br>
&gt;         dentro de ese<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquete...<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 has visto algo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; interesante??<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Estas librerías, casi na :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;           /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;           /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpegscale.so<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;           /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpostproc.so<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Pues va a ser que las necesitamos... ;)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt; No me gusta mucho el<br>
&gt;         asunto de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         tener que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 compilar todo eso,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         pero bueno. De momento<br>
&gt;         tiramos así<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         y si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 vemos una manera mejor<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         pues lo cambiamos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Ten en cuenta que es<br>
&gt;         de la mejor<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         forma que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 se pueden hacer<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         estas cosas (al menos<br>
&gt;         que yo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         conozca). Lo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 que cuesta es el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         hecho de compilar,<br>
&gt;         pero eso ya<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         está<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 hecho :-) Aunque sea<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         costoso este metodo,<br>
&gt;         ganamos en<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 controlamos todos los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         paquetes y decidimos<br>
&gt;         qué<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         actualizar y qué<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 no.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Es mejor compilar<br>
&gt;         70-80 paquetes y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         tener un<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 sistema estable<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         (lenny), a tener 600<br>
&gt;         paquetes de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         testing :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Además, al ser<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         lenny muy reciente, no<br>
&gt;         hay<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         excesivos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 problemas para compilar.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; Ok, me parece bien. Si tu no<br>
&gt;         ves problema.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Yo es que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 es oir compilar<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; cosas y me entra la pereza...<br>
&gt;         Aunque<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         entiendo que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 con debian es mas o<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; menos automático.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Si, si la pereza no nos la quita<br>
&gt;         nadie.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Sería<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 diferente a si tuviéramos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 que generar nosotros los<br>
&gt;         paquetes y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         compilar. Pero con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 debian, te bajas<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 las fuentes, lanzas<br>
&gt;         dpkg-buildpackage y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         cruzas los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 dedos :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         No se hablé mas.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; Te adjunto el ejemplo que nos<br>
&gt;         traemos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         entre manos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Ahora se saca el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; video directamente en YUV2 de<br>
&gt;         la webcam y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         se<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 transmite así. El visor<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; hace una transformación básica<br>
&gt;         a escala de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         grises.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; Resultados, el servidor no<br>
&gt;         sube del 2% y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         el cliente<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 convirtiendo se<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; pone al 15% y sólo recibiendo<br>
&gt;         al 2%.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; Pruebalo cuando tengas un<br>
&gt;         momento en la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         pico.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 El servidor arrancado, consume<br>
&gt;         del 2% al 5%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 640x480 :-)  y si conecto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 el cliente en otra máquina, el<br>
&gt;         consumo llega<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         hasta el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 12%-15%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Perdona, los porcentajes que envié los<br>
&gt;         saqué a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         320x240 a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         30fps. Probando a 640x480 30fps obtengo<br>
&gt;         resultados<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         parecidos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Por cierto, en el cliente la<br>
&gt;         imagen la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         obtengo con un<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 poco de LAG, pero<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 visualmente si me parece que va<br>
&gt;         cerca de los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         25fps,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 sin embargo la GUI<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 muestra 7-8 (creo que es<br>
&gt;         imposible).<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Si, yo también veo una latencia<br>
&gt;         importante. Creo que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         gstremer<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         tiene algo para ajustar estas cosas. De<br>
&gt;         todas<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         formas, bajando<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         los fps a 15 es aceptable, no creo que<br>
&gt;         transmitamos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         a 30fps,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         no?<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         El contador de la GUI es mas robusto<br>
&gt;         ahora, debería<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         dar la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         cuenta bien. Prueba a cambiar las<br>
&gt;         condiciones de luz<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         de la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         cámara y fijaté si varían los fps. Te<br>
&gt;         sugiero que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         pruebes el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         modo de exposición automático,<br>
&gt;         ajustandolo con el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquete que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         envié. Cambios?<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 El cliente ejecutado en la pico<br>
&gt;         rondaba el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         35% pero no<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 es muy fiable,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 porque lo ejecuto a través de<br>
&gt;         vnc y el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         rendimiento<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 gráfico así es<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 penoso. Aunque tampoco importa<br>
&gt;         mucho cuanto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         consume el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 cliente en la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 pico, porque normalmente no se<br>
&gt;         va a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         ejecutar.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         La mayor parte de CPU se va en<br>
&gt;         transformación<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         YUV-&gt;RGB.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Podemos evitar este paso usando la<br>
&gt;         extension Xv del<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         servidor<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         X, que permite usar YUV directamente<br>
&gt;         (está pensada<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         para<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         mostrar stream de video con alto<br>
&gt;         rendimiento).<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Aunque no he<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         dado con la manera buena de hacerlo con<br>
&gt;         GTK.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Creo que es una muy buena<br>
&gt;         aproximación la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         que has<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 hecho David :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Me gustaría saber cuanto de<br>
&gt;         costoso es en el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         cliente,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 pasar a RGB<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 mediante una tabla estilo<br>
&gt;         libcolorspaces (o<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         incluso<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 hacer esta<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 conversión en el servidor). Por<br>
&gt;         que si por<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         ejemplo, si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 en el servidor<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 convertimos a RGB utilizando<br>
&gt;         libcolorspaces,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         y eso<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 sube un 5%, creo que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 es asumible para que todos los<br>
&gt;         componentes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         trabajen<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 con RGB.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 ¿Cómo lo ves?<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Veo que habría que justificar que<br>
&gt;         necesitamos RGB,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         ya que por<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         el momento YUV nos da alguna ventaja. La<br>
&gt;         mas<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         destacable es que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         YUV2, el formato que saca la cámara<br>
&gt;         directamente,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         usa un 33%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         menos de datos que RGB para transmitir<br>
&gt;         la misma<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         información<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         (la cámara no da RGB directamente), ya<br>
&gt;         que obtenemos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         2 pixels<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         RGB (6bytes) por cada 4bytes YUV.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Esto en local quizá no importe, pero si<br>
&gt;         transmitimos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         por la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         red creo que es mejor solución.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         Lo dicho, habrá que ver los<br>
&gt;         beneficios/contras de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         usar cada<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         uno de los formatos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;         David.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; Saludetes,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt; David.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt; Te comento cuando<br>
&gt;         haga mas<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         pruebas.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt; David.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt; 2009/10/15 Roberto<br>
&gt;         Calvo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         David,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Ya tengo<br>
&gt;         algo, no lo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         tengo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 completo pero puedes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         hacer pruebas.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Los tienes<br>
&gt;         en [1] y con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 siguiente linea lo añades<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         al<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         source.list<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         deb<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="http://jde.gsyc.es/apt/" target="_blank">http://jde.gsyc.es/apt/</a> lenny<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 gstreamer<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Como ves,<br>
&gt;         hay casi 50<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquetes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 debian, ha costado el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         jodido<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         backport, es<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         la<br>
&gt;         recursividad llevada<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         al limite<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 jeje. Lo único que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         me<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         preocupa es<br>
&gt;         que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         he tenido<br>
&gt;         que compilar<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         también la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 glib2.0, pero ha<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         compilado<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         correctamente.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Únicamente<br>
&gt;         me queda por<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         hacer el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 backport de:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;           *<br>
&gt;         gstreamer0.10-nice:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         tengo que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 buscar una<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         dependencia que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         tiene, que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         no logro<br>
&gt;         encontrar el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquete :-O<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;           *<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: Este va<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 a tener jaleo,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         porque<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         depende de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         todas las<br>
&gt;         librerías de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         ffmpeg pero<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 creo que se puede<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         conseguir.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         un saludo!<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         [1]<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://jde.gsyc.es/apt/dists/lenny/gstreamer/binary-i386/" target="_blank">http://jde.gsyc.es/apt/dists/lenny/gstreamer/binary-i386/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         El mié,<br>
&gt;         14-10-2009 a las<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         12:41<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 +0200, Roberto Calvo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; El mar,<br>
&gt;         13-10-2009 a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         las 18:20<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 +0200, David Lobato<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt; Ya tengo<br>
&gt;         un debian<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         lenny<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 andando para empezar<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         con pruebas.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt; Roberto,<br>
&gt;         sacaste los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquetes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 de gstreamer para<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         lenny?? Si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         los tienes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt; ponlos<br>
&gt;         por algún<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         lado para<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 ponermelos.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Los he<br>
&gt;         conseguido<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         compilar en<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 lenny, pero<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         justamente al<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         final falla<br>
&gt;         a la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; hora de<br>
&gt;         generar los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         paquetes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 debian.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Dejame<br>
&gt;         echarle un ojo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         más, a ver<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 si veo algo.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; un<br>
&gt;         saludete!<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Saludetes.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         2009/10/6 Roberto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Calvo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &lt;<a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Grachie<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         David!<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Hemos estado<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         haciendo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 unas pruebas con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         David en la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         picoITX<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         (sobre SID),<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         recordad que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         es un<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 procesador de 1Ghz.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Component<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Frames<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Resolution<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;          Porcentaje<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         CPU<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         -----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         varcolorserver<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 25fps<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         320x240<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         20-25%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         varcolorserver + envio<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 25fps<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         320x240<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         28-32<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         varcolorserver<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 25fps<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         640x480<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         95 %<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Hemos visto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         que el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 problema parece estar<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         en que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         gstreamer<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         siempre hace<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         una<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         recodificación si<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 lo que queremos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         obtener es<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         RGB (cosa<br>
&gt;         que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         no<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         debería ya<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 video4linux2 no lo hace),<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         La buena<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         noticia es<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 que hemos visto que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         utilizando<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         gstreamer y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         obteniendo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         las<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 imágenes en YUV (320x240<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         640x480), el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         procesamiento de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         la CPU ronda<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         entre 3%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 y 6%<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         siguientes pasos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 serán ver si se<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         puede<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         optimizar el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         pipeline de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         gstreamer<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         para obtener<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 RGB con un bajo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         coste de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         CPU, y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         estudiar la<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         posibilidad<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         de<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 trabajar siempre en YUV.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         un saludete!<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         El mar,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         06-10-2009 a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 las 13:05 +0200,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         David Lobato<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         escribió:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Roberto,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Te adjunto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         el<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 ejemplo del que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         hablabamos. Una<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         vez<br>
&gt;         compilado<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         genera dos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         ejecutables,<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 varcolorserver y<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         varcolorviewgtkmm.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Ejecutalos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         pasando a<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 cada uno su<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         configuracion<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         con<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 --Ice.Config=&lt;fichero&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Usa los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         cfg con los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 mismos nombres que<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         los<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         ejecutables.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Si tienes<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         cualquier<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 problema<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         comentamelo.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Saludetes.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Jde-developers<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 <a href="mailto:Jde-developers@gsyc.es">Jde-developers@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers" target="_blank">http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;           Roberto<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Calvo<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Palomino          | Libre<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Software<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Engineering<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         91 488 85<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 23         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Universidad Rey<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         91 488 81<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 05         | Edif.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         c/Tulipán s/n<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         28933<br>
&gt;         Móstoles<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;           GPG-KEY:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         Jde-developers mailing<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         list<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="mailto:Jde-developers@gsyc.es">Jde-developers@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers" target="_blank">http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Roberto<br>
&gt;         Calvo Palomino<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;                  |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Libre Software<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Engineering<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         91 488 85 23<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Universidad Rey<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         91 488 81 05<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Edif.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 c/Tulipán s/n<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         28933 Móstoles<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         GPG-KEY:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Roberto<br>
&gt;         Calvo Palomino<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;                  |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Libre Software<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Engineering<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         91 488 85 23<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Universidad Rey<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Tel: (+34)<br>
&gt;         91 488 81 05<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Edif.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 c/Tulipán s/n<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         28933 Móstoles<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;         GPG-KEY:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Roberto Calvo<br>
&gt;         Palomino          |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Libre<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Software Engineering<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 85<br>
&gt;         23         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Universidad Rey Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 81<br>
&gt;         05         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Edif.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         c/Tulipán<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 s/n 28933 Móstoles<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;         GPG-KEY:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Roberto Calvo Palomino<br>
&gt;          | Libre<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Software<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Engineering Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Tel: (+34) 91 488 85 23<br>
&gt;         |<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Universidad Rey Juan<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Tel: (+34) 91 488 81 05<br>
&gt;         | Edif.<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Departamental<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 II - Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         | c/Tulipán<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         s/n 28933<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 Móstoles (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;                 GPG-KEY:<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         --<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Roberto Calvo Palomino          | Libre Software<br>
&gt;         Engineering<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 85 23         | Universidad Rey<br>
&gt;         Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 81 05         | Edif.<br>
&gt;         Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>                 | c/Tulipán s/n<br>
&gt;         28933 Móstoles<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;         GPG-KEY: <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt; Jde-developers mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt; <a href="mailto:Jde-developers@gsyc.es">Jde-developers@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers" target="_blank">http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt; Jde-developers mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt; <a href="mailto:Jde-developers@gsyc.es">Jde-developers@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers" target="_blank">http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         --<br>
&gt;         Roberto Calvo Palomino          | Libre Software Engineering<br>
&gt;         Lab (GSyC)<br>
&gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 85 23         | Universidad Rey Juan Carlos<br>
&gt;         Tel: (+34) 91 488 81 05         | Edif. Departamental II -<br>
&gt;         Despacho 116<br>
&gt;         <a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>                 | c/Tulipán s/n 28933 Móstoles<br>
&gt;         (Madrid)<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         GPG-KEY: <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Jde-developers mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href="mailto:Jde-developers@gsyc.es">Jde-developers@gsyc.es</a><br>
&gt; <a href="http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers" target="_blank">http://gsyc.escet.urjc.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/jde-developers</a><br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Roberto Calvo Palomino          | Libre Software Engineering Lab (GSyC)<br>
Tel: (+34) 91 488 85 23         | Universidad Rey Juan Carlos<br>
Tel: (+34) 91 488 81 05         | Edif. Departamental II - Despacho 116<br>
<a href="mailto:rocapal@gsyc.es">rocapal@gsyc.es</a>                 | c/Tulipán s/n 28933 Móstoles (Madrid)<br>
<a href="http://libresoft.es/" target="_blank">http://libresoft.es/</a><br>
<br>
GPG-KEY: <a href="http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg" target="_blank">http://gsyc.es/~rocapal/rocapal.gpg</a><br>
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